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Old 07-25-2006, 12:30 PM   #16 (permalink)

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Yes, but it definately has to be TKD along with some type of ground game such as BJJ or even wrestling. If not then the TKD guy probably wouldn't fair to well against the other competition in MMA. 2 or 3 styles is a must nowdays for anyone to be competitive.
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Old 07-25-2006, 04:24 PM   #17 (permalink)

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This is true, as is with any style when you fight in mma tournaments. You have to have a well rounded fight game in striking and grappling. Not just one or the other. Ofcourse if straight tkd was to go up against some one who is great at tkd as well as some grappling style in the mix, the odds are for the mixed martial artist. In my oppinionn at least. As is with any single style that goes up against a mixed martial art style that is more rounded!
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Old 07-25-2006, 04:52 PM   #18 (permalink)

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I agree with everybody that in mixed martial arts competition, you need to be well rounded fighter to succeed.

Still.... I would like to see more and more TKD fighters in MMA events and see them utilize their hands and feet standing up. As much as I enjoy good ground techniques, sometimes it can be pretty boring and I love a good stand-up fight over good submission. It's just more fun to me. Anybody else feel the same?
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Old 07-25-2006, 07:10 PM   #19 (permalink)

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hey complete, sounds like you should try mma. if you do any matches in virginia give me a head's up and i'll come out to root for you
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Old 07-25-2006, 07:17 PM   #20 (permalink)

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Thanks for the encouragement but I'm way too old to be competing and I've been out of serious training for quite some time.
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Well, to be honest, as a general style with typical practitioners, I would say not very good. TKD has several aspects that are not taught on a regular basis in most clubs. And no, MMA is not longer a mix of several distinct styles, MMA has grown more or less into its own style, due to the high level that has been reached. In the early days of the UFC, Gracie JJ dominated because most of Royce's opposition did not have any formal grappling training. Today all competitiors know how to grapple, and it is mostly about how well you do both on the ground and standing up, modern MMA-athletes needs to have a solid foundation in both games, AND ALSO in the game that goes down between the stand up and the ground. This is an aspect you will not be able to train if you only do a stand-up style such as TKD or Kick-Boxing and combine it with attending a Judo-club, or a BJJ-club with no focus on stand-up-strategies. You will get a good foundation on the ground, and you will get a good foundation standing up, but you will miss certain aspects such as how to get a good kickboxer to the ground, since you will probably not get much striking and kicking at a typical Judo-club.

And personally, I do not like the "this one person who...", "my master does...". That tells little or nothing about the art, that tells about a single person. I feel that what is representative for an art, is how its typical practitioners, chosen from several clubs are able to perform, not how some single guy who probably does as much MMA-realated training as he does traditional TKD is able to perform, or how a master who trained in a totally different manner than the normal "MA should be for all"-type of training many clubs practice today.

My impression when reading threads like this one, is that a whole lot of practitioners out there just seems like they are not willing to accept that certain ways of training will give you advantages to fight in a certain way(MMA or NHB in this case). A TKD practitioner would probably do better than an untrained person, but to expect to be able to compete with dedicated MMA-fighters with only traditional TKD-training, is an illusion, and before anyone can show me a statistic that tells me otherwise, I do not think that there is anything that can convince me otherwise.

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Quite a few Taekwondo fighters have done well in Cagerage - the top competitors from ITF are generally good stand up fighters, once they have trainied heir floor work they can be a good all rounder

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TKD is one of the seven disciplines of mma but alone would not be very effective. If you go back and get some of the original ufc movies you will see the style vs. style match ups and what does and does not work
In the ring that is.
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Do you happen to have another link to the same video? The video is removed and I am quite anxious to see it.
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with the right person who dedicates life to training, any style can be just as effective as mixed martail arts. Training in more stuff doesnt make you better any fight on the street will tell you that. Skill comes with dedication and training, not who is the most rounded. Come on what if the guys hit so hard he can knock you out with one strike, and you try to take him down just to get a knee or palm/fist to the face or back of the neck.
You can alos be so skilled at a grappling art that you can wreck most stand up/mma's around.
Skill does not come from being well rounded, when there are no rules skill and ferciocity come on top.
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I agree in most situations it is the skill and heart that wins fights! You can get by with one or the other but sooner or later you will need both to survive in a fight!
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Jalek, knowing more styles helps only if you know specifically how to keep someone at your distance. If I would fight Jayson, it would be my strategy to keep him at a distance I can kick him, where as he would want to take me to the ground. If you want to think about it another way. If you were going to spar a guy with a gun, would you rather be 8ft away or 2ft away?
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Is this for real? It looks like Muay Thai organization put on the show by bringing in a dummy TKD practitioner for a show.
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i just wanted to prove my point that styles are styles it is the man in the fight not the style!
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