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Old 11-13-2007, 02:18 PM   #31 (permalink)

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, I have noticed that there are a lot of TKD practitioners on this site, yet alone everywhere i go, and I would like to get some help from you all!
the thing is that i am a little nervous to go up against a TKD practitioner, and though I have studied the style myslelf up until my green belt, I am wondering if there are any tips against going up people who master the kicks!
well ..... keep circling him and try and maneuvor your way through up in his face so he cant get off any kicks and if you cant do that keep your distance , and have swift feet "he cant hit what he can catch"
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well ..... keep circling him and try and maneuvor your way through up in his face so he cant get off any kicks and if you cant do that keep your distance , and have swift feet "he cant hit what he can catch"

It is not always the best idea to keep a distance....sometimes getting in close and takedowns work................
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Old 11-14-2007, 10:39 AM   #33 (permalink)

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It is not always the best idea to keep a distance....sometimes getting in close and takedowns work................
are we talking about sparring ??? or something else
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Sparring.......it is always a good idea to have distance between you and a TKDer....
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Sparring.......it is always a good idea to have distance between you and a TKDer....
I would say that this is usually a bad idea. If I was a non TKDer and I was going up against a TKDer I would want to get him on the ground as fast as I could. Most TKDers are not comfortable on the ground, even if they know a thing or two there. Take them out of their element and you win.
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so by taking his legs away i would feint or combo or footwork my way in so i can sweep or kick his legs, but then again TKD ists have those vicious knockouts that if anyone comes near them then they'd destroy them.

Also, i heard to not kick with a kicker and not box with a boxer so should i box the TKDist?
but then that would mean he has more reach and power because of his legs right?
I like to kick kickers, but only if I am the better kicker. Other wise, if his kick is below your kick, you will be in a world of hurt

Also, if the person is throwing some pretty wild kicks, I usually just catch their leg and trip them. It is pretty easy and very fun
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I would say that this is usually a bad idea. If I was a non TKDer and I was going up against a TKDer I would want to get him on the ground as fast as I could. Most TKDers are not comfortable on the ground, even if they know a thing or two there. Take them out of their element and you win.

I agree...you misunderstood what I meant by that post;

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Ben-Ive not read all the posts.
firstly, be weary with going in close, any good kicker will be able to kick you at punching distance,

secondly, only you will know how to do this when you fight him,


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well ..... keep circling him and try and maneuvor your way through up in his face so he cant get off any kicks and if you cant do that keep your distance , and have swift feet "he cant hit what he can catch"
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It is not always the best idea to keep a distance....sometimes getting in close and takedowns work................

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are we talking about sparring ??? or something else

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I was saying we were talking about how
he said it was a good idea for keeping distance…this wasn’t mine
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Hehe you have no chance against a TKD guys Lol just joking...

Well my best tip is that: Remember that TKD displays the movements of the Asian Tiger
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In my experience, which admittedly isn't much, I've only been training for 2 and a half to 3 years in TKD...most TKD practitioners that I have encountered don't have much of a clue as to how to use their hands. Much emphasis is placed on kicks, so if you're solid at working with your hands, just close the gap. Or, since they love to throw roundhouses, just wait for one and catch it and take down.

The important part is taking their feet away from them, however you can do that, do it. Even if you can't, if all they are doing is kicking, then just calmly block the kicks and let them tire themselves out.
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In my experience, which admittedly isn't much, I've only been training for 2 and a half to 3 years in TKD...most TKD practitioners that I have encountered don't have much of a clue as to how to use their hands. Much emphasis is placed on kicks, so if you're solid at working with your hands, just close the gap. Or, since they love to throw roundhouses, just wait for one and catch it and take down.

The important part is taking their feet away from them, however you can do that, do it. Even if you can't, if all they are doing is kicking, then just calmly block the kicks and let them tire themselves out.
Well, you, or they, havent went against the TKDers that I had known decades ago. It would seem, much commercial TKD doesnt do thorough training OR practitioners develop bad habits, OR people haven't trained to their potential yet.
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In my experience, which admittedly isn't much, I've only been training for 2 and a half to 3 years in TKD...most TKD practitioners that I have encountered don't have much of a clue as to how to use their hands. Much emphasis is placed on kicks, so if you're solid at working with your hands, just close the gap. Or, since they love to throw roundhouses, just wait for one and catch it and take down.

The important part is taking their feet away from them, however you can do that, do it. Even if you can't, if all they are doing is kicking, then just calmly block the kicks and let them tire themselves out.
If you are able to catch the leg of a TKDer, then you are simply faster and more skilled than him. I'll take a page from Drallig and say that you should have beat them anyway and it wasn't so great a victory.
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An Asian Tiger? umm No. If you want to break TKD down to an animal, you should look at the crane. It shares many similarities with crane kung fu. Some kung fu guys even think it is crane kung fu, just changed as it went to Korea. On this I have no idea, but I can tell you it has very little resemplance to the tiger styles I know and have seen. Tiger is almost a direct opposite of how TKD fights due to the range and techniques favored by TKD.
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An Asian Tiger? umm No. If you want to break TKD down to an animal, you should look at the crane. It shares many similarities with crane kung fu. Some kung fu guys even think it is crane kung fu, just changed as it went to Korea. On this I have no idea, but I can tell you it has very little resemplance to the tiger styles I know and have seen. Tiger is almost a direct opposite of how TKD fights due to the range and techniques favored by TKD.
I can assure you 100% that TaeKwonDo is displaying the movements of the asian tiger... 100%
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Well, you, or they, havent went against the TKDers that I had known decades ago. It would seem, much commercial TKD doesnt do thorough training OR practitioners develop bad habits, OR people haven't trained to their potential yet.
Times change, and sometimes styles change with them. ITF is the best bet for self defense and is the most well rounded. I'm unfortunately stuck in WTF and the focus is the sport. We do hand-work when we do forward and backstance, but that's about it. Point sparring too, I suppose, but it's completely useless.

Yes, you can strike to the head with your hands in point sparring, but it can only be one strike and then the next needs to be rechambered or they'll not only not give you a point for your next technique, but you'll lose a point as well. There is no trapping of the hands allowed. "Light contact" depends completely upon the set of judges, there is no standard. The rules are also left up to interpretation, unfortunately. The one strike rule has been in effect for a while, but I've had people doing a repeated backfist, but just pulling it up and dropping it back down repeatedly, and they get points for each one.

The sparring we do in class is completely based on the sport. The self defense techniques are weak at best. The kick combos are sport based too, I just can't stand it. I'm leaving it soon, thankfully.
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I can assure you 100% that TaeKwonDo is displaying the movements of the asian tiger... 100%
By all means...assure me. I need proof. I am just a bit skeptical on this whole 'Asian tiger' thing. The crane part makes some sense, especially when considering that many Okinawan karate stylists also cite Crane style Chinese martial arts as a source and TKD grew out of Shotokan, thus Crane influence, if it existed at all in karate, likely would have been passed to TKD as well. This deal with the Asian tiger just strikes me as propaganda along the same lines with Tae Kwon Do being thousands of years old and being the technical descendant of the Hwarang warriors. However, I am trying to keep an open mind. Show me evidence and give a compelling argument and I will be quiet about it. Fail to do so and I will mock you mercilessly.(Okay so not really, but I will still roll my eyes).
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