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The TKD bashers are out there. Yet, this art seem to gain popularity and enjoyed by youngsters....
Is most of the bashing from other martial artists or the general populace.....
Schools are like doughnut shops....just about every where and plentiful.
Is it envy, Mcdojoish, Popularity....why does TKD seem to always get a focal point?
Why are there those who've studied it claim not to have or claim it isnt good only after a few years of training or testing others from it with less skill?
__________________ What do I know? Since I didn't post my styles or experience, I have no experience, no knowledge, no say.
That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
'MMA fighters are testosterone filled egomaniacs.' - joemoplata they are also filled with babarian creme
becasue most never really trained for combat.
and have never been in a serious fight or full contact competition before those two years.
and believe that simply becasue they are good at tkd sparring they could beat anyone in a real fight or non tkd competition fight.
they just never simply trained to fight, or trained to get punched at or tackled to the ground. most are only used to getting kicked at and never punched at.
ultimately, most tkdist that disclaim it, or say it isnt effective after a few years, either hardly trained and did it as a hobby, and not understood that the martial arts, all martial arts must be practiced and practiced, and practiced(realisticly), or never trained for a real situation, most6 expect to get into a tkd sparring match on the street when that is not very likely. and their instructor either didnt prepare them for combat for defense, or they didn't put forth the effort.
becasue most never really trained for combat.
and have never been in a serious fight or full contact competition before those two years.
and believe that simply becasue they are good at tkd sparring they could beat anyone in a real fight or non tkd competition fight.
they just never simply trained to fight, or trained to get punched at or tackled to the ground. most are only used to getting kicked at and never punched at.
ultimately, most tkdist that disclaim it, or say it isnt effective after a few years, either hardly trained and did it as a hobby, and not understood that the martial arts, all martial arts must be practiced and practiced, and practiced(realisticly), or never trained for a real situation, most6 expect to get into a tkd sparring match on the street when that is not very likely. and their instructor either didnt prepare them for combat for defense, or they didn't put forth the effort.
What about those who've actually studied it in Korea?
Do you think our glorious "complete", sodrum, cannot use it in a real fight scenario?
__________________ What do I know? Since I didn't post my styles or experience, I have no experience, no knowledge, no say.
That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
'MMA fighters are testosterone filled egomaniacs.' - joemoplata they are also filled with babarian creme
this is also a problem in many kenpo,kung fu,and karate scools in the U.S. simply too many do not want to get hurt through their MA training. which contradicts with the belief of Many Martial Arts, and the Artists practicing them that, being hit is the best way to learn how to fight, or fighting is the best way too learn how to fight. most do not train realisticly, or want to get hurt, and leave the school if they get hit or hurt in the slightest way, which makes many instructors have to lighten the training, if the instructor was truly teaching them in the first place.
it wouls now seem that those who train in Koreas want to be the best olympic TKD sparrers. and as ive seen Spar every day in class(tkd rules). in return they are amazing TKD sparres but they are horrible with thier hands, have no ground game, and arn't accustomed to actual combat, or at least full contact fighting.(assuming they arnt learning another art)
this is also a problem in many kenpo,kung fu,and karate scools in the U.S. simply too many do not want to get hurt through their MA training. which contradicts with the belief of Many Martial Arts, and the Artists practicing them that, being hit is the best way to learn how to fight, or fighting is the best way too learn how to fight. most do not train realisticly, or want to get hurt, and leave the school if they get hit or hurt in the slightest way, which makes many instructors have to lighten the training, if the instructor was truly teaching them in the first place.
Being able to take a hit, isnt the only tactic of being a good fighter....
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Originally Posted by XDEATHGOD
i cannot say for i do not know how he trained.
Thus, how can anyone truly state anything negative about TKD....
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Originally Posted by XDEATHGOD
it wouls now seem that those who train in Koreas want to be the best olympic TKD sparrers. and as ive seen Spar every day in class(tkd rules). in return they are amazing TKD sparres but they are horrible with thier hands, have no ground game, and arn't accustomed to actual combat, or at least full contact fighting.(assuming they arnt learning another art)
There are many in Korea, whom do not train in TKD for the Olmpics/Sport. This is another TKD/Korea, misconception.
__________________ What do I know? Since I didn't post my styles or experience, I have no experience, no knowledge, no say.
That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
'MMA fighters are testosterone filled egomaniacs.' - joemoplata they are also filled with babarian creme
first i agree. i know there are many in korea who dont train for olympic sparring but still more than in any other country, if im correct. afer all the best TKD sparrers should be from Korea not from The U.S. right?(not my opinion)
i know taking a hit isn't the only way to become a good fighter. but it would seem that being hit different ways makes your brain remember those attacks, and set ups, and when it comes again, your brain will notice it, and you will most likely react and not get hit by the same tachnique. im not saying this is the only way just the way, my Instrucor trained us.
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Originally Posted by XDEATHGOD
this is also a problem in many kenpo,kung fu,and karate scools in the U.S. simply too many do not want to get hurt through their MA training. which contradicts with the belief of Many Martial Arts, and the Artists practicing them that, being hit is the best way to learn how to fight, or fighting is the best way too learn how to fight. most do not train realisticly, or want to get hurt, and leave the school if they get hit or hurt in the slightest way, which makes many instructors have to lighten the training, if the instructor was truly teaching them in the first place.
Being able to take a hit, isnt the only tactic of being a good fighter....
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Originally Posted by XDEATHGOD
i cannot say for i do not know how he trained.
"Thus, how can anyone truly state anything negative about TKD....: well i suppose the same way someone could aout grappling arts like judo or Jiu Jitsu, or wrestling. there will always be those who want to bring down others, and other ideas.
and someone can truly state anything about any art or anything by having a bad expierience with it, or seeing it through biased eyes. or by seeing someone related to these arts get beat up.
In my opnion.
Pls. what is your opinion on this matter 47MartialMan?
I dunno what it is. I think its "D" all of the above
When i trained TKD in the Caribbean it was pretty rough....my Instructor beat my azz. and there were those days of standing in horse stance for long periods of time and doin knuckle push ups in the hot sun. you didnt get promoted unless you could really handle people in your age group (as far as kids go)
When i trained in Korea, theres some schools that are very olympic oriented. but there are also schools that are street effective as well as tournament effective, like the school i trained at which teaches civilians an the ROK army
theres some real good schools stateside. its just with TKD. if one wants to find a good quality school you may have to do alot of shopping around depending on where you live.
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Originally Posted by living in the way:
you have no disaplin, youv trained for many years yet youv leanred nothing from what youv been studying.
MM47:
You have no proper punctuation. Woe is it that someone maybe be a tad lazy to hit the shift/cap key. I have learned more in my studies than you may realise.
o i remember the long periods of horse stances, and back stances.lol and the kunuckle push ups on concrete. seems like our teachers had similar teaching styles.
I like all of that except for the sound effects he makes while doing the forms. I have no idea why, by that always grates on my mind. Let you uniform snaps be heard if you are really doing correct moves, don't cover it up with some kind of beat box-like sounds.
Also, it show that even for someone experienced, 3 on 1 can still get out of hand really quick.
I dunno what it is. I think its "D" all of the above
When i trained TKD in the Caribbean it was pretty rough....my Instructor beat my azz. and there were those days of standing in horse stance for long periods of time and doin knuckle push ups in the hot sun. you didnt get promoted unless you could really handle people in your age group (as far as kids go)
When i trained in Korea, theres some schools that are very olympic oriented. but there are also schools that are street effective as well as tournament effective, like the school i trained at which teaches civilians an the ROK army
theres some real good schools stateside. its just with TKD. if one wants to find a good quality school you may have to do alot of shopping around depending on where you live.
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Originally Posted by living in the way:
you have no disaplin, youv trained for many years yet youv leanred nothing from what youv been studying.
MM47:
You have no proper punctuation. Woe is it that someone maybe be a tad lazy to hit the shift/cap key. I have learned more in my studies than you may realise.
Also, it show that even for someone experienced, 3 on 1 can still get out of hand really quick.
yeah, the reality of fighting resisting opponents
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Originally Posted by living in the way:
you have no disaplin, youv trained for many years yet youv leanred nothing from what youv been studying.
MM47:
You have no proper punctuation. Woe is it that someone maybe be a tad lazy to hit the shift/cap key. I have learned more in my studies than you may realise.
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