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Is there a reason to chamber a hand when blocking and punching? My tkd instructor says its for power but after watching many boxing matches, I have never seen a chamber. I was talking to a MT guy last night and he said over 60% of punching power comes from the hips and you need to keep that hand up or else you will be popped. My TKD instructor actually has us punch without the hips. So it seems like chambering and not using the hips are bad habits. Can anyone confirm this?
They are horrible habits and even in the case of the reverse punch you should still use your hips. TKD is not well known for it's striking methods and that sums up why. Chambering is ok for drills and to apply isometric pressure to the tricep but I would never ever, ever ever do this in a fight. A lot of arts have a one blow one kill mentality and that just doesn't translate well to real life.
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They are horrible habits and even in the case of the reverse punch you should still use your hips. TKD is not well known for it's striking methods and that sums up why. Chambering is ok for drills and to apply isometric pressure to the tricep but I would never ever, ever ever do this in a fight. A lot of arts have a one blow one kill mentality and that just doesn't translate well to real life.
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Don't forget in TKD competition point sparring they are going by count punch so the idea is speed. Plus you can't punch to the face so why bother putting your hands up?
The best art for learning how to fight with your hands is boxing. Pure and simple.
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No offense, but your instructor needs to re-examine what he is teaching. Pulling the hands back to chamber is a drilling excercise ONLY. If you put your hand to your waist you are gimping your defense and offense. You are basically telling any opponent who faces you, "Here, my hands are down. Please hit me in the face!" Only way it could be worse is if you stuck your chin out when you chambered your hands to your waist. Most of the power from a good strike comes from the legs and glutes. If you cut that power off at the waste then it'll be like shooting someone with a pea shooter. Its just going to annoy them. My advice is find another instructor.
chambering is a basic training drill that is used to help "remind" you to twist the hips when punching (basic drill example: when punching from a sitting/horse stance), also prepare you for proper punching format (how to keep your wrist straight,arm tight, elbow slightly bent), etc!! As a person progresses from out of the beginner phase you learn that most of the techniques you were taught, were "broken down" for a beginner and only start to make sense as you gain more experience/higher rank!
Side Note: Question: Your instructor actually said, "do not twist/use your hips" when punching?? If so, look for another school right NOW!!!! JMO!
Back to subject: things like chambering and/or folding for blocking and/or strikes:
You chamber/fold as a beginner so that you learn a simple format, then as you progress so do your skills and you will learn (or your instructor will reveal) that it wasn't about chambering/folding but instead it was to teach you twisting/rotating to maximize your power by drawing from your core (hips) body strength along with your upper/lower body!
Yet another side Note: As a TKD instructor I do Not teach my students to Not use their hands, and we DO teach hand/feet strikes to the head and encourage it!
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Pulling to chamber does train one other thing that hasn't been mentioned. There are many arm bar applications that require you to pull an opponents arm back to chamber so you can control the arm with your waist. This is a beginner chin na lock in many kung fu schools and it is one of the reasons chamber is taught. However, any instructor that tells you the waist is not used in striking has no business teaching others.
Apart from what has been said, TKD isnt the only system that does this. many other Karate systems "chamber". Howver, not puting the hips, etc., into it seem weird.
In one defense situation, I once caught a guy with a reverse punch, and it didnt come from a chamber
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Apart from what has been said, TKD isnt the only system that does this. many other Karate systems "chamber". Howver, not puting the hips, etc., into it seem weird.
In one defense situation, I once caught a guy with a reverse punch, and it didnt come from a chamber
Would that be the same as a cross then?
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Punches and blocks from a horse stance are drills that are meant to train speed/coordination in your arms and endurance in your legs. Once you get the 'turn your fist over while punching' motion in muscle memory, punches from other stances (where you do use your hips and legs) will have more power. A proper reverse punch only differs from a boxing cross punch just as the standard fighting stance in Tae Kwon Do differs from the standard fighting stance in boxing. (Specifically, the TKD punch will take longer because it requires a larger twist of the hips. The boxing stance is more open to begin with and so starts closer, thus also allowing for better penetration.)
As far as learning to fight with your hands is concerned, there is a reason I started to learn boxing after getting 1st Dan in TKD. Different tools for different jobs.
Punches and blocks from a horse stance are drills that are meant to train speed/coordination in your arms and endurance in your legs. Once you get the 'turn your fist over while punching' motion in muscle memory, punches from other stances (where you do use your hips and legs) will have more power. A proper reverse punch only differs from a boxing cross punch just as the standard fighting stance in Tae Kwon Do differs from the standard fighting stance in boxing. (Specifically, the TKD punch will take longer because it requires a larger twist of the hips. The boxing stance is more open to begin with and so starts closer, thus also allowing for better penetration.)
As far as learning to fight with your hands is concerned, there is a reason I started to learn boxing after getting 1st Dan in TKD. Different tools for different jobs.
i too took up boxing to better my hands. but after a month, i came to relize that it was unnessesary and quit.
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