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Board breaking is one of several forms of Tameshiwari, or testing of the strike. It is used to give a good visible reprisentation of the ultimate end of the strike and the effectiveness contained within... similar to the way the longer belt tags in karate indicate hip movement.
It is a way of force a student to over come the fear of hitting something that looks like it is gonna hurt, and perform a good and powerful strike.
It does have a few benefits in the area of Sumonowari, or the training of the strike. But to be honest in my opinion those benefits are much better exemplified and increased by the use of a hard but none breakable impact surface. Like a plasti-block pad, or a makiwara.
It's a great thing to say "Look I can break this much wood" and it certainly shows the power of your strike, but it also risks damaging your hands even on experienced fighters, and it mainly gives benefits that can be gained else wear.
Now I will say that in the area of bone and joint breaking techniques Board breaking is excellent, because hitting a pad that doesn't flex doesn't give you a proper follow through on the technique as if it had broken a bone/joint, a board held correctly will.... however the bone/joint wont always break so training against something that doesn't break, like a pad is also important.
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I believe that board/brick breaking, or rather the ability to break a board/break, is not a skill unto itself but rather is the product of much training to develop power in your blows and the skill to focus it on to a small area.
Being able to break a board doesn't necessarily mean that you are any better of a fighter than the next guy, it just shows that you know how to focus your power. However, I find that a focused blow is much more dangerous than an unfocused one.
You like to talk about blowing alot, don't you?
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Ok all you people who keep saying that to be able to break boards requires training of concentration etc. im calling BS. I broke up an old wardrobe today to take to the tip. Guess how i broke pieces up...yes thats right i decided to use my feet with my other half holding them. Training of concentration etc. BS!!!! Aim at heads not boards people!! It will get you a good kicker much faster with no need for boards as instead there is BONE!!!
People cost more then wood though. What happens when you destroy all of your training partners. This is why I had to stop doing Dim Mak, I kept killing all of my training partners!!
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Ok all you people who keep saying that to be able to break boards requires training of concentration etc. im calling BS. I broke up an old wardrobe today to take to the tip. Guess how i broke pieces up...yes thats right i decided to use my feet with my other half holding them. Training of concentration etc. BS!!!! Aim at heads not boards people!! It will get you a good kicker much faster with no need for boards as instead there is BONE!!!
Yeah yeah, don't use a training tool such as breaking boards because live people are so much better! Boards do indead help some students understand the mechanics of striking. They do not teach a student how to fight and no one has said they do. Like any other training tool, the value is in how it is used. Understand it as a training tool, not a substitution for every other training method.
As far as breaking up an old wardrobe...what do you want, a cookie? Big deal. I've broken bricks for demos. That doesn't take anything away from the guys that broke boards.
Yeah yeah, don't use a training tool such as breaking boards because live people are so much better! Boards do indead help some students understand the mechanics of striking. They do not teach a student how to fight and no one has said they do. Like any other training tool, the value is in how it is used. Understand it as a training tool, not a substitution for every other training method.
As far as breaking up an old wardrobe...what do you want, a cookie? Big deal. I've broken bricks for demos. That doesn't take anything away from the guys that broke boards.
Yes i understand i it as a training tool however i dont believe that it is as an effectiv training tool as people claim, it is however like others have said mainly something for show.
And the thing with the wardrobe im just using it to show how you dont need training in breaking boards to break a board
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if your doing something like a demonstration, yeah board breaking is show and is more entertaining that just kicking the air but its still demonstrating skill in a certain degree of power depending on how many boards are used and the thickness of them.
for training its just another way to train in addition to focus mits, kicking pads, and hanging bags etc. same way you simulate low, mid, head kicks with focus mits and bags, same way you can do with boards.
with a board you also deal with judging your distance as part of the precision in your striking techniques on the board, when you start using thicker and multiple boards then you realize that brute strength and power alone doesnt cut it
but that you have to train to condition for them and theres different ways, like the makiwara for JMA karateka or "tollyon-chu" for KMA
other things that come from breaking are balance, control,and concentration. its easy to balance when your kicking the air or a pad for example, but not the same when kicking a board.
you have to exercise control to break a board without inuring yourself or the board holder, the board holder is just as important as the breaker.
concentration is self explanatory and all of this in board training is another aspect that increases a peron's confidence.
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if your doing something like a demonstration, yeah board breaking is show and is more entertaining that just kicking the air but its still demonstrating skill in a certain degree of power depending on how many boards are used and the thickness of them.
for training its just another way to train in addition to focus mits, kicking pads, and hanging bags etc. same way you simulate low, mid, head kicks with focus mits and bags, same way you can do with boards.
with a board you also deal with judging your distance as part of the precision in your striking techniques on the board, when you start using thicker and multiple boards then you realize that brute strength and power alone doesnt cut it
but that you have to train to condition for them and theres different ways, like the makiwara for JMA karateka or "tollyon-chu" for KMA
other things that come from breaking are balance, control,and concentration. its easy to balance when your kicking the air or a pad for example, but not the same when kicking a board.
you have to exercise control to break a board without inuring yourself or the board holder, the board holder is just as important as the breaker.
concentration is self explanatory and all of this in board training is another aspect that increases a peron's confidence.
In FMA they don't kick or punch boards, does this make TKD player more focused, co-ordinated and controlled in a fight?
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In FMA they don't kick or punch boards, does this make TKD player more focused, co-ordinated and controlled in a fight?
its doesnt mean that they have to be more focused, coordinated, and control in general. the FMA person could be better in those areas. but as far as striking goes such as kicks i would say that the TKD person may have better kicking form and application. but again boards is just another training way of training not a sole way.
some FMA arts such as 'Sikarang' do train in board breaking btw
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Boards do indead help some students understand the mechanics of striking. They do not teach a student how to fight and no one has said they do. Like any other training tool, the value is in how it is used. Understand it as a training tool, not a substitution for every other training method.
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