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TKD Unification
The world of TKD is split into seperate factions. There is ITF, WTF, ATA extc. Do you think that these organizations will ever reach a commom ground so that we all may compete together and to make the Olympics availible to all?
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This is a good question. I don't think so. Only because before I joined this board...I cruised around on some others. And the TKD discussions were crazy...people had very strong feelings about the organization that they belonged to. People arguing that ITF was better than WTF because of this...WTF was better than ITF because of that...and most of the concensus on ATA was that it was a joke...which to me was an insult as I am in the ATA. And the way they were describing the ATA was nothing like what I experience in my current training.
We just signed a guy from Puerto Rico that trained in the ITF for 8 years. I asked him what he thought, and he pretty much said it was basically the same...just our forms were different and that he did Olympic style sparring...and I don't think he got to train much with weapons. The ATA does Traditional TKD sparring.
I have read on these other boards that the Grand Masters of each org was supposed to have a meeting at some point and discuss this...but if this happened or not, I don't know.
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I dont really see it happening. i do see reaching a common ground with a universal standard for competition rules. but a unification of all the orgs doesnt sound like it could be accomplished.
with most arts, theres always some division and people who break away and want to do thier own thing.
so a universal standard for competition i think is cool. im from KTA,
it would be good to unite....but sometimes i look at other TKD orgs and how weak and substandard they are and dont really want to have much to do with them than kick thier tails in cause they make TKD look bad
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I think that each faction should keep itself intact. It would be cool though if there was more sharing of ideas and brotherhood between organizations. It would be nice if competetions were open to all federations as well. TKD at the higher levels is big business, so these TKD politicians don't want to unite because of fear. Fear they will lose money and power they hold so dear.
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- Choi, Hong Hi, Founder of Taekwon-Do
The black belt is not a mark or symbol of the end of the journey to ones mastery of the arts; rather it is the mark that one is done packing for their journey and may now take the first step in their true journey. This a journey which can not ever be complete, only traveled..."
I hate when politics further influences the degredation of something I love, and this is what all this organizational TKD in-fighting is all about.
I don't see the big TKD organizations uniting. Ever. It would be nice, however, to at least see a unification of competition rules and more openness in allowing practitioners to compete in the Olympics.
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Many many moons ago I did train in ITF and then had to switch to WTF when I moved town. Not much difference, only terms and names of this and that. I dont see them uniting any time soon. The arts do not change but the people upholding the arts that need to change. People are hard to change specially the old ones. The grandmasters, if you know what I mean?
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I just don't see it happening. It would be nice, but there are too many followers of all the organizations that have been "brain-washed" and will never even consider change. The ones that don't like something go out and create a new organization and tailor it to thier needs/beliefs. It is sad when you really think about it, the people TKD was meant to empower are the ones that are bringing it down - and in most cases all for a buck.
I agree with you there. It is a big political competition and everyone wants to be on top. Too bad too..
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Originally Posted by souldrum71
I hate when politics further influences the degredation of something I love, and this is what all this organizational TKD in-fighting is all about.
I don't see the big TKD organizations uniting. Ever. It would be nice, however, to at least see a unification of competition rules and more openness in allowing practitioners to compete in the Olympics.
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There should be one big TKD family. Even if there are stylistic differences between different organizations people should just except other schools and try and help eachother. If we all could unite it would promote a lot more learning and growth in the TKD comunity. But the people on top are not willing to loose any of their power or money.
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- Choi, Hong Hi, Founder of Taekwon-Do
The black belt is not a mark or symbol of the end of the journey to ones mastery of the arts; rather it is the mark that one is done packing for their journey and may now take the first step in their true journey. This a journey which can not ever be complete, only traveled..."
This reminds me of "the perfect world". I think martial art orgs are created to branch away from other orgs. This being the main reason, why would they ever consider to unite?
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