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correct me if im wrong but you get told to never really defend in TKD and always go for attacks, which i spartly the reason why hands are never used to block kicks
Also, a big thing is that in the point-stop style of competitions, blocking a kick will often times lead to a stop in the action before you have the chance to counter anyway. So, really, with the rules how they are, you arms become useless.
1. Stop after contact
2. No punches to the head or face
3. Strikes have to be hard enough to visibly effect an opponent
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Also, a big thing is that in the point-stop style of competitions, blocking a kick will often times lead to a stop in the action before you have the chance to counter anyway. So, really, with the rules how they are, you arms become useless.
1. Stop after contact
2. No punches to the head or face
3. Strikes have to be hard enough to visibly effect an opponent
That's why we compete in 'open' martial arts tournaments.. where you can punch to the head.. and in bb divisions... the face is also a target
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Even the no face contact rule has instilled some very bad habits into fighters I've seen. Its hard to undo after the years it takes a person to get to black. I can only imagine how hard the dropping the guard thing is to correct.
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One thing I would like to clear up is that in WTF taekwondo we don't stop when a point is scored. The sparring is continuous.
The only time action is stopped is when a rule has been broken, an opponent is knocked down, a ring out, and at the end of rounds.
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One thing I would like to clear up is that in WTF taekwondo we don't stop when a point is scored. The sparring is continuous.
WTF still does point-stop in the Olympics. I know that some tournaments have gone to "continuous kickboxing" rules, but it is incorrect to say that all of WTF has.
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WTF still does point-stop in the Olympics. I know that some tournaments have gone to "continuous kickboxing" rules, but it is incorrect to say that all of WTF has.
Are you sure? I don't think so. Two or three points can be scored in a single exchange.
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correct me if im wrong but you get told to never really defend in TKD and always go for attacks, which i spartly the reason why hands are never used to block kicks
It all depends on who you study under. My teacher was always on us to keep our hands up and and defend.
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It all depends on who you study under. My teacher was always on us to keep our hands up and and defend.
Same thing here, my master always tells us to keep our hands up. Sometimes i drop my front hand a little when i'm feinting though.
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I did not realise someone could get knocked out in tae kwon events. Are these lucky shots on people who cannot handle being hit.
...or its because taking a fully unblocked kick to the head will knock most people around/down pretty well. Add enough hits in a short period of time and anyone will get knocked out.
What MA are you training Natalie? I know a few guys who would be interested in whatever methods you are using to avoid getting knocked out.
our tournaments allow head and face shots.kids use halo around head and face.we go until the center judge tells you to stop, then 3 judges for color belts call for point, first to 3 points wins the match and moves up.black belts have 5 judges and go to 5 points.head gear is optional for adult black belts.
we also have a last match for 1st place black belt adults, men and women spar together.
we use our hands to block, keeping them up i feel helps to stop a head point. i'll post our tournament when the date is set, if you in adrian,mi please feel free to come and compete or just check it out.
men, groin shots are allowed so bring a cup.
we use all the adult black belts for judges from all the schools that show up
we hand out trophies,ribbons,and awsome grand champion awards.
...or its because taking a fully unblocked kick to the head will knock most people around/down pretty well. Add enough hits in a short period of time and anyone will get knocked out.
What MA are you training Natalie? I know a few guys who would be interested in whatever methods you are using to avoid getting knocked out.
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I did not realise someone could get knocked out in tae kwon events. Are these lucky shots on people who cannot handle being hit.
I was at a the state championship, the match before me a white belt and a yellowbelt over 18 fought.
The first move the whitebelt threw a 360 degree spinning roundhouse kick and the the other fighter square in the face. It sounded like the guy kicked one of those kicking paddles. The kids nose was completely sideways. It was a one technique match.
I witnessed another match at the state championship where two BB's fought the first move a roundhouse kick was countered with a spinning hook kick. The guy who got hook kicked was taken out on a stretcher.
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Here's a picture from the first tournament. I pushing kicked my opponent into the corner score keeper. I launched his ass!
He was an Blue Belt and I was an Orange Belt at this time. My next promotion was a double promotion to get my Blue Belt.
That's his master sitting in the chair with a look of shock on his face.
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I did not realise someone could get knocked out in tae kwon events. Are these lucky shots on people who cannot handle being hit.
Spinning techniques are a lot of force focused on one spot. It isn't about not being able to take a shot. The fighters are staying at the perfect range for spinning techniques due to the tournament rules and fighting methods used by most TKD. If you were hit in the same way, the same result would happen.
When you post remarks like this you make yourself seem like a condescending person with very little actual fighting experience. Perhaps think about it a few seconds before posting.