fighting equipment
Custom Search
 

 

 

 


Go Back   Martial Arts Forums > Mixed Martial Arts > UFC

Notices

UFC Discuss Ultimate Fighting Championship


Sponsors
Martial Arts Weapons
Broad Sword
Wooden Broad Sword
$18.95
And see the rest of our Martial Arts Weapons
at MartialArtsSupplies.com

Top 50 Martial Arts Topsites List

myspace
Reply
Old 01-30-2008, 08:59 AM   #1 (permalink)

Administrator
 
complete's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: San Clemente, CA
Styles: Tae Kwon Do, Tang Soo Do, Hwa Rang Do
Posts: 8,788
Home Country:
complete is just really nicecomplete is just really nice



Send a message via Yahoo to complete
MIR WANTS TO PROVE HIMSELF AGAINST LESNAR

MIR WANTS TO PROVE HIMSELF AGAINST LESNAR
Wednesday, January 30, 2008 - by Damon Martin - MMAWeekly.com

Winning an Ultimate Fighting Championship title could be considered the greatest achievement for any fighter, but for Frank Mir, working his way back to the top of the heavyweight ladder could eventually be seen as his greatest achievement after a motorcycle accident almost sidelined his career altogether.

The former champion will hope to put his name back into contender’s status when he faces former WWE superstar Brock Lesnar on Saturday night at UFC 81.

With Lesnar set to make his UFC debut, the majority of the attention on the upcoming fight seems to lie primarily on the former WWE wrestler, but Mir understands the importance of a fight of this magnitude, which played into why he accepted the fight against Lesnar in the first place.

“First off, you weigh out the pros and cons of every match-up in your head and you know, off the bat, the only thing that worried me was that people weren’t going to give a lot of respect for Lesnar for the fact (he’s) coming from only one fight in MMA, and the pro wrestling background,” said Mir in an interview with MMAWeekly Radio.

“People are now paying attention to the fact that he was an NCAA wrestling champion, has an excellent wrestling background, real wrestling, and the fact that he has such a large name brought a lot to the table for me.”

From day one in the UFC, Lesnar will be one of the biggest names to ever step into the Octagon because of his former day job with the WWE, and while Mir understands the celebrity of fighting someone of Lesnar’s status, he is absolutely not looking past the danger in this fight.

“Every heavyweight in the UFC division is dangerous. There is nobody I can think of right now that I’m like ‘whoa, I can walk in there half asleep and kill this guy!” commented Mir. “Everybody poses a threat, that’s why you never know who’s going to win till they fight. Lesnar has a bigger name than most anybody else in the UFC because of his former background, so that just posed that much more reward.”

Many expect this fight to end up on the ground due to Lesnar’s extensive wrestling background, and Mir, a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt, feels that will play directly into his best asset.

“Most people know to try to avoid being inside my guard and I’ve had to learn how to fight jiu-jitsu from the top,” Mir said. “But in this fight it looks like I’m going to be able to use a lot of half guard and closed guard maneuvers, because that’s his style. And no matter what training he’s done, even if he tries to throw punches and back up to use his wrestling to counter my takedowns, eventually he’s going to take me down.”

Mir also feels that this match-up is very smart matchmaking for the UFC because the winner is not only a star in the making, but also an instant contender in the heavyweight division.

“I can see where there’s really no losing for the UFC in this fight,” stated Mir. “I win, I’m back into title contingency, and they have another heavyweight now who now has a lot more name recognition because I have a victory over Brock Lesnar, in a highly watched match. He wins, he has a win over a former champion. So it’s a legitimate statement that he belongs in the UFC, and he can start moving forward.”

As previously mentioned, Mir has been on the comeback trail for the better part of the last three years following the motorcycle accident that almost stopped his career, but the former UFC heavyweight champion no longer says that he’s back to his old form and will now let the fight tell the story.

“That’s one of those things where I’ll talk a lot and more or less it’s going to have to be proven the night of the fight,” said Mir of his performance.

He is confident about his chances facing Lesnar, but he’s also realistic as to what he needs to do to pull off a win in this pivotal heavyweight match-up.

“Definitely a finish cause that’s the only way I’m going to win,” said Mir. “I’m not going to out-wrestle Lesnar for 15 minutes and put him on his back and hold him down. So for me to win I either have to take his arm or neck, or knock him upside his head.”

Frank Mir will get his chance on Feb. 2 when he faces Brock Lesnar at UFC 81 in Las Vegas.
complete is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2008, 12:29 PM   #2 (permalink)

Blue Belt
 
gbells's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 135
Home Country:
gbells is on a distinguished road



This is just my oppinion so take it for what it's worth, but unless brock has made considerable gains on his submission techniques, mir will make him tap
__________________
Close the gap and destroy
gbells is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2008, 01:21 PM   #3 (permalink)

Moderator
 
souldrum71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Alabama
Styles: Seishin Juku, Shotokan, Taekwondo, Judo, Jujitsu, Aikido, Kyokushin
Posts: 1,947
Home Country:
souldrum71 is just really nicesouldrum71 is just really nice



I'm in agreement with gbells. I've liked Mir ever since I watched him break Tim Sylvia's arm with a beautifully executed armbar.


__________________
"An eye for an eye only blinds the world." - Ghandi
"Imagination is more important than knowledge." - Albert Einstein
"Without deviation from the norm progress is not possible." - Frank Zappa
souldrum71 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2008, 07:53 PM   #4 (permalink)

Black Belt I
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Suffern, NY
Styles: Vee-Jitsu, Shotokan, TKD & Arnis
Posts: 772
Home Country:
Sensei Tom OBrien is just really niceSensei Tom OBrien is just really nice



Lesnar v Mir

My money is on Frank. Brock is coming from an entertainment venue - this is a real fight. Brock has not been in a real fight but maybe once. WWE is choreographed the UFC is not.

Thanks,
Tom
Sensei Tom OBrien is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 04:08 AM   #5 (permalink)

Brown Belt
 
SiDeWiNdEr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Connecticut
Styles: Koba-Ryu
Posts: 218
Home Country:
SiDeWiNdEr is on a distinguished road



Send a message via ICQ to SiDeWiNdEr Send a message via AIM to SiDeWiNdEr Send a message via MSN to SiDeWiNdEr Send a message via Yahoo to SiDeWiNdEr
what about Brocks wrestling days in the NCAA's? I'm hoping it's a good fight.
__________________
www.zombiebattalion.com
Family is No.1 You can help
www.lymphoma.org
SiDeWiNdEr is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 06:14 AM   #6 (permalink)

Moderator
 
souldrum71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Alabama
Styles: Seishin Juku, Shotokan, Taekwondo, Judo, Jujitsu, Aikido, Kyokushin
Posts: 1,947
Home Country:
souldrum71 is just really nicesouldrum71 is just really nice



Sidewinder has a good point, Sensei Tom. Regardless of Lesnar's WWE days, his collegiate wrestling experience and pure power alone should make for an interesting fight.

__________________
"An eye for an eye only blinds the world." - Ghandi
"Imagination is more important than knowledge." - Albert Einstein
"Without deviation from the norm progress is not possible." - Frank Zappa
souldrum71 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2008, 07:57 PM   #7 (permalink)

Black Belt I
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Suffern, NY
Styles: Vee-Jitsu, Shotokan, TKD & Arnis
Posts: 772
Home Country:
Sensei Tom OBrien is just really niceSensei Tom OBrien is just really nice



Lesnar v Mir

I agree with you guys about Brock's real wrestling skills and strength. I hope it is a good fight.

Thanks,
Tom
Sensei Tom OBrien is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2008, 07:46 AM   #8 (permalink)

Administrator
 
complete's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: San Clemente, CA
Styles: Tae Kwon Do, Tang Soo Do, Hwa Rang Do
Posts: 8,788
Home Country:
complete is just really nicecomplete is just really nice



Send a message via Yahoo to complete
We'll find out tomorrow night.
complete is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2008, 12:57 PM   #9 (permalink)

Black Belt I
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Suffern, NY
Styles: Vee-Jitsu, Shotokan, TKD & Arnis
Posts: 772
Home Country:
Sensei Tom OBrien is just really niceSensei Tom OBrien is just really nice



Lesnar v Mir

complete,

Are you doing commentary on this event? I have an appointment Sat. nite that I can't break and I will be looking for one.

Thanks,
Tom
Sensei Tom OBrien is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2008, 12:59 PM   #10 (permalink)

Administrator
 
complete's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: San Clemente, CA
Styles: Tae Kwon Do, Tang Soo Do, Hwa Rang Do
Posts: 8,788
Home Country:
complete is just really nicecomplete is just really nice



Send a message via Yahoo to complete
Most likely but not 100% sure.
complete is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2008, 06:19 PM   #11 (permalink)

Black Belt I
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Suffern, NY
Styles: Vee-Jitsu, Shotokan, TKD & Arnis
Posts: 772
Home Country:
Sensei Tom OBrien is just really niceSensei Tom OBrien is just really nice



Lesnar v Mir

complete,

Please, please do the commentary on this. C,mon you are the best. I have to go out soon & when I come back I'm hoping to see it.

Thanks,
Tom
Sensei Tom OBrien is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2008, 02:38 PM   #12 (permalink)

Brown Belt
 
SiDeWiNdEr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Connecticut
Styles: Koba-Ryu
Posts: 218
Home Country:
SiDeWiNdEr is on a distinguished road



Send a message via ICQ to SiDeWiNdEr Send a message via AIM to SiDeWiNdEr Send a message via MSN to SiDeWiNdEr Send a message via Yahoo to SiDeWiNdEr
I think Brock had Mir worried, I wonder if it wasn't for that "Back of the head stopage" if it would have been a different outcome
__________________
www.zombiebattalion.com
Family is No.1 You can help
www.lymphoma.org
SiDeWiNdEr is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2008, 02:41 PM   #13 (permalink)

Brown Belt
 
SiDeWiNdEr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Connecticut
Styles: Koba-Ryu
Posts: 218
Home Country:
SiDeWiNdEr is on a distinguished road



Send a message via ICQ to SiDeWiNdEr Send a message via AIM to SiDeWiNdEr Send a message via MSN to SiDeWiNdEr Send a message via Yahoo to SiDeWiNdEr
I should say I think if it wasn't for that stopage Brock would of won it.
__________________
www.zombiebattalion.com
Family is No.1 You can help
www.lymphoma.org
SiDeWiNdEr is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2008, 02:43 PM   #14 (permalink)

Moderator
 
souldrum71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Alabama
Styles: Seishin Juku, Shotokan, Taekwondo, Judo, Jujitsu, Aikido, Kyokushin
Posts: 1,947
Home Country:
souldrum71 is just really nicesouldrum71 is just really nice



After reading complete's commentary on this fight, I'm hating that I didn't get to see it. A leg lock? I've never seen anyone in the UFC tap out due to a leg lock.

__________________
"An eye for an eye only blinds the world." - Ghandi
"Imagination is more important than knowledge." - Albert Einstein
"Without deviation from the norm progress is not possible." - Frank Zappa
souldrum71 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2008, 02:45 PM   #15 (permalink)

Brown Belt
 
SiDeWiNdEr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Connecticut
Styles: Koba-Ryu
Posts: 218
Home Country:
SiDeWiNdEr is on a distinguished road



Send a message via ICQ to SiDeWiNdEr Send a message via AIM to SiDeWiNdEr Send a message via MSN to SiDeWiNdEr Send a message via Yahoo to SiDeWiNdEr
Quote:
Originally Posted by souldrum71 View Post
After reading complete's commentary on this fight, I'm hating that I didn't get to see it. A leg lock? I've never seen anyone in the UFC tap out due to a leg lock.

basically an ankle lock, twisting his foot the way it won't bend, Mir has won a fight with it before I'm almost positive of it.
__________________
www.zombiebattalion.com
Family is No.1 You can help
www.lymphoma.org
SiDeWiNdEr is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:11 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0