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Old 06-11-2008, 01:59 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Creating for a 16?

I'm thinking about starting to take creatine supplements and what not later this year, when I reach 16.

Do any of you older gym guys know anything about the substance, side effects or just have general input about it? It's legal for me to take it as soon as I'm 16 but still...

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I would avoid it if I were you. I used to take a lot of different supplements for bodybuilding and fat burning. They were certainly effective compared to not taking them but there are definite side effects which are different for different people. For me, it was fast heart rate and high blood pressure and I stopped taking them.

With anything, check with your doctor make sure you are safe to do so. Sometimes, they do have really bad side effects that can be fatal.
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Creatin is something your kidneys naturally filter out of your body. Adding more creatin to your body can have negative side effects. Complete is right. Check with your doc before tain supplements of this nature. Sometimes the side effects of supplements can do permanent damage to a person's body. That would be a huge shame with a man as young as yourself.
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I'm thinking about starting to take creatine supplements and what not later this year, when I reach 16.

Do any of you older gym guys know anything about the substance, side effects or just have general input about it? It's legal for me to take it as soon as I'm 16 but still...

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I tried creatine 2 times. I noticed within a few days of taking it I felt very anxious and agitated so I stopped both times. I wouldnt trust it. I now only take whey protein that is organic.
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Hmm... Yeah that does sound logical, I'll go to my Doctors when I'm the right age.

But is creatine a lot more effective than whey protein?
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Hmm... Yeah that does sound logical, I'll go to my Doctors when I'm the right age.

But is creatine a lot more effective than whey protein?
Well not a lot but it will make you stronger/bigger when taking it but those effects wear off unless you keep cycling it.

Do you currently lift? With a good workout and diet you will put on weight and get stronger anyway. Why risk side effects with creatine? And you are still growing. I would advise to wait till you are 18-20 and more filled out before taking a supplement like creatine.
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Well not a lot but it will make you stronger/bigger when taking it but those effects wear off unless you keep cycling it.

Do you currently lift? With a good workout and diet you will put on weight and get stronger anyway. Why risk side effects with creatine? And you are still growing. I would advise to wait till you are 18-20 and more filled out before taking a supplement like creatine.
I lift, but not intensely, school life and laziness gets in the way. I can't really get a diet because I eat what the rest of my family eat, I'm not really in a position where I can say, "Mum make me this." I'm hopefully still growing. :P
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First of all you need to understand what the supplements are that you want to take and how they work, then way the potential side effects vs the benefits and make your decision.

Creatine is a natural substance in the body, used by the muscles for energy and stored in skeletal muscle. Creatine acts to provide good ATP production which is the energy source your muscles use for contraction. Your body naturally makes creatine, but you also get it in your food (meat products, especially red meat).

Used as a supplement, creatine has two things it can do for. First, since it allows for better energy consumption by your skeletal muscle it has the ability to allow for more energy output (more reps and/or higher weight). Not by a huge amount, but anyone who lifts regularly knows that just getting one extra rep out will make a huge increase in gains. Secondly, since your body will store extra creatine in the skeletal muscle, it actually increases the size of your muscles. This, however, is due to the "bloating" effect it has because of the extra water retention having excess creatine will cause.

Because of the extra water retention in the skeletal muscle, creatine's immediate side effects can include:

- cramping
- hypertension
- quicker dehydration
- weight increase

Long term effects are not as well known, but generally speaking the medical community seems to agree that it's effects would be minimal.

On a side note: Creatine supplementation is not mind or mood altering in any way. It is also not a stimulant. Anyone experiencing jitteriness or anxiousness may have been taking something that contained a thermogenic or a stimulant in conjuntion with creatine.
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Godde,

First of all you need to understand what the supplements are that you want to take and how they work, then way the potential side effects vs the benefits and make your decision.

Creatine is a natural substance in the body, used by the muscles for energy and stored in skeletal muscle. Creatine acts to provide good ATP production which is the energy source your muscles use for contraction. Your body naturally makes creatine, but you also get it in your food (meat products, especially red meat).

Used as a supplement, creatine has two things it can do for. First, since it allows for better energy consumption by your skeletal muscle it has the ability to allow for more energy output (more reps and/or higher weight). Not by a huge amount, but anyone who lifts regularly knows that just getting one extra rep out will make a huge increase in gains. Secondly, since your body will store extra creatine in the skeletal muscle, it actually increases the size of your muscles. This, however, is due to the "bloating" effect it has because of the extra water retention having excess creatine will cause.

Because of the extra water retention in the skeletal muscle, creatine's immediate side effects can include:

- cramping
- hypertension
- quicker dehydration
- weight increase

Long term effects are not as well known, but generally speaking the medical community seems to agree that it's effects would be minimal.

On a side note: Creatine supplementation is not mind or mood altering in any way. It is also not a stimulant. Anyone experiencing jitteriness or anxiousness may have been taking something that contained a thermogenic or a stimulant in conjuntion with creatine.
So what's your opinion at taking it at 16?
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So what's your opinion at taking it at 16?
That's a relative question, in my opinion because it depends on the person. I think that an increase in muscle mass at 16 isn't necessarily good for your growing joints which need to support that extra mass. Slow growth will probabaly be healthier if you are still growing.

However, if you have gone through most of that, then I think taking 3 - 5 grams a day as a supplement to weight training is fine. But as others have said, a doctor's opinion is not a bad idea.
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So what's your opinion at taking it at 16?
Since you are not lifting intensely and/or have a good diet, why would you want to take creatine in the first place?
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Since you are not lifting intensely and/or have a good diet, why would you want to take creatine in the first place?
Yeah, I forgot to ask that!!
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Since you are not lifting intensely and/or have a good diet, why would you want to take creatine in the first place?
Oh because over the summer, I'm going back Vietnam, where I can join a gym for about £2 (~$4) a month. I'm gonna start training then, because I won't have school to get in my way, and I have a much larger control of a diet over there. And it's the only real thing to pass the time since I can't mingle with the locals due to language barrier.
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And would you guys recommend any other supplements or shall I just wait till I've stopped growing before I start?
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And would you guys recommend any other supplements or shall I just wait till I've stopped growing before I start?
You might want to stick with simple amino acide supplementation for now and skip the creatine all together.
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